Question:
Past vs Present heavyweight. John L. Sullivan vs Joe Mesi who would win?
gannoway
2009-01-05 18:58:17 UTC
Past vs Present heavyweight. John L. Sullivan vs Joe Mesi who would win?
Three answers:
anonymous
2009-01-06 11:35:49 UTC
Anyone who could fight in the 100 degree July heat for 2-plus hours against Jake Kilrain with BAREKNUCKLES is a bad, bad man. The fact that he did this drunk is even MORE impressive. There's a reason the word "legend" is used when speaking of Sullivan.



Joe Mesi has always impressed me. . .. and with his superior strength (plus 100 years of technology in his favor, making workouts far more effective). . . . he'd give Sully a good scrap. But in the end, it just comes down to brute toughness.



Sullivan used acidic linaments on his face at night to "toughen his hide". . . in an attempt to avoid cutting. Today's fighters try their best to stay pretty, so they use Vaseline to make punches "slip away". . . also to prevent cutting and injury.



Back then, rounds weren't three minutes like today. . . rounds were over at a knockdown. . . . ten seconds or ten minutes. . whenever the knockdown came.



Overall, Sullivan defined "manliness" during a time when being a "gentleman" was the in thing. With a shot of whiskey and Cuban cigar never out of arm's reach. Sullivan with a twenty-round stoppage over a game but overmatched Mesi.
anonymous
2009-01-06 18:21:20 UTC
Joe Mesi has power, but he takes too much punishment, and if guys like Vassiliy Jirov can brain damage Joe, John L. Sullivan would have beaten Mesi to death. I don't mean to make light of a boxing injury, but the fact that Joe Mesi was able to get a boxing license to box professionally after the injuries he sustained in the Jirov fight is criminal and a total disgrace to boxing as a whole. I like Joe Mesi, but physically he is one punch away from a complete tragedy, and should not be boxing professionally given his medical history.
toughguy2
2009-01-06 03:36:23 UTC
Bareknuckes, John L easily. With gloves, Mesi who has the more modern skills. Give John L some time to properly train and lay off the sauce and he would probably knock Mesi out.


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