Question:
Who's fault was it that the mayweather pacquio fight was cancel?
anonymous
2010-01-14 00:46:12 UTC
Why didn't pacquio want to do the random blood testing, is he hiding something?? Who can't mayweather fight now?? He wont do the numbers he did with Oscar by himself.
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2010-01-14 01:46:43 UTC
The truth is, that THE FAULTIS ON MAYWEATHER, and HIS managers.





anaylize these facts, and honestly tell me that it isn't MOSTLY Mayweather's fault.





See,...the thing that ticks me off, and a LOT of boxing fans is that Mayweather seems to always find a way to dodge a tough fight. He protects that record of his AT ALL COSTS. And, over the years he has developed a reputation as a fight dodger.



On the flip side, a lot of Pac-man fans, find NO FAULT in their boy, because Pacquiao has never dodged, or tried to wiggle out of tough fights. Pacquiao has built a reputation as a guy who meets every difficult challenge head on at full speed ahead. So,... when the fight fell through the crapper, its very easy to point fingers at Mayweather seeing as how he has a long track record pattern of doing stuff like this.



There is a lot of other stuff too,... and, it does paint a funky picture, and, again it points the finger at mayweather.



For example, isn't it weird that way back in 2005 manny Pacquaio went public and, voiced his opinion that he believed the reason he lost to Erick Morales was because of having blood drawn close to the fight, and that he believed it weakend him. Even though, it was probably a psychological problem, and likely not a medical one,... Although the point is that it was real to Pacquiao. Now that went public in 2005, and everyone knew that Pacquiao felt that way,....however, superstitious it may be, that is how the guy feels.



So,...isn't it convienent that Mayweather who has NEVER had an issue with the efficiency of The Nevada State Comission with respect to the way they conduct testing for PED's. Now suddenly, he wants to change the rules, and have blood drawn close to the fight??? He would certainly have known that manny was superstitious about that, and that it would be the perfect escape plan to get out of the fight. And, not look like a coward.



Now basically, Mayweather's whole entire defence is that he asserts that Pacquiao is using PED's



What makes that so funny, is that Mayweather would absolutley NOT agree to a fight in Texas, or anywhere outside of Nevada,...Why??? Well, I will tell you why,...Floyd Mayweather is using a PED!!! Did you get that??? Floyd mayweather is using a Preformance Enhancing Drug!!! It is a drug called XYLOCAINE, and its illegal in Texas, and pretty much EVERYWHERE,...everywhere EXCEPT Nevada. Mind you that Nevada allows pretty much EVERYTHING including prostitution and gambling. So its NO WONDER why Floyd wouln't fight in Texas!



So, Floyd gets out of a fight by using Pacquaio's well known superstition against him, and then accuses Manny of taking PED's, while he stays up in Nevada using PED's??? Ummn,... that seems kinda weird don't you think???



Additionally, when Pacquiao and Mayweather were having their talks, trying to save the fight. it was later reported that Manny had been bending over backwards to try and make the fight happen. Including agreeing to let the fight be billed as Mayweather-Pacquiao instead of Pacquiao-Mayweather. Mayweather never bent at all, everything had to be his way, he wouldn't agree to any of Pacquiao's requests, so at some point Pacquiao just get feed up with the guy, can you really blame him??? Mayweather was deliberatly sabotaging the fight!



Also, just to clear manny's name, Manny agreed to three blood tests, unlimited urine tests, and to another blood test immediately after the fight. If Manny was on the JUICE he certainly would not agree to all that. Especially because after a fight, due to dehydration the "JUICE" if there was any would be concentrated in his blood system, and therefore much easier to find.



The simple fact is that Manny isn't on any PED's



Mayweather knows that, what he wants is to get out of the fight, and save his precious record, to do that, he knew that all he has to do is demand blood tests right before the fight, and it worked.
anonymous
2016-05-27 13:10:30 UTC
Was there a prison sentence as to one of them allow them the right and they shall make millions and they do not care as the people that are wanting what has pacquio done for his area as nothing and that as Mayweather the fight is on but whom is the lost they that followed and believied they the community as the area that were not recompensed
fts1939
2010-01-14 01:23:04 UTC
The Nevada Boxing Commission and the other agencies doing the testing for drug use for not standing up and voicing their opposition to the demands of Mayweather's camp to use the USADA instead of the usual agencies. What's wrong with them? Are they acknowledging that their agencies cannot be trusted with their results? Can somebody tell this post if the USADA has done any drug testing on boxing matches before and have they discovered anything different from the usual agencies performing these tests? Could it be possible that Mayweather and these USADA are in to something that could blotch the result of their test in his favor?
pijee
2010-01-14 01:32:29 UTC
Mayweather, for demanding drug tests at random. He just cant demand on Pacquiao like that, If I were Pacquiao, I wouldn't let that random test happen either coz NSAC already made it clear to all that the schedule of tests suggested by Pacquiao's corner is already enough to prove both fighters to be using PEDs or not for the fight. It's just too much to demand... I can't let that if I were MP.
anonymous
2010-01-14 00:55:00 UTC
It's boxing's fault. Boxing is a just a shell of what it once was. I used to love boxing, but im done. It's a joke, a sham. Its not about being the best boxer around, its about handpicking opponents you know you can beat. Boxing isn't run by boxers, but businessmen who have no love of the sport, just money. Soon boxing is gonna make pro wrestling seem legit. Boxing isn't about boxing, its about money. And both boxers and their managers already have money, so why risk blemishing your record with a loss, and making the other guy "p4p greatest" in the process? If they both decide to not fight in the long run they both win, they don't have to fight a guy that can beat them and can continue fighting fighters that are nothing but a joke to keep making money and keep winning. If you call that winning.
marlon louie m
2010-01-14 01:48:41 UTC
i don't think anybody should take random testing because it not required by boxing organization. when you join or compete in a tournament or league like NBA, Olympics, MLB, and all other sports there are already rules or guidelines governing in these organizations. Now, pro boxing has its own rules and olympics too, why should you follow other ruling(like in olypics) when you are competing in a pro boxing? Did any other great in sports demanded this kind of testing before competing. Did Magic Johnson aksed this to Micheal Jordan or Jordan to Kobe? did Pete Sampras asked this Federrer or Federrer to Nadal? did Ali asked this to Frazer? Did anybody???? Nobody asked. Beacause all those people knows and we all know that they are Great and respectable sportsman.
.
2010-01-14 01:56:46 UTC
I could give a long answer, but to me it comes down to. How can you be scared of a da&*ed needle?
anonymous
2010-01-14 00:54:39 UTC
when i find out i will kill them!
MyKill
2010-01-14 01:31:14 UTC
Xylocaine is LEGAL in Nevada. Team Mayweather is entitled to use it on Floyd in his fight with Manny in Las Vegas, NEVADA.



Bloodtests are NOT REQUIRED in Nevada. Team Pac is entitled to reject all OTHER form of testing except those prescribed by the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC). They seem to be doing their job well as they caught Chavez Jr. on PED's last December.



Team Mayweather should be THANKFUL that Team Pacquiao even entertained their blood test requests. In fact the problem here is in the TERMS of these bloodtest and not on the blood testing itself. Team Pacquiao's concession of a 24 day blood test cutoff period and even agreed to a blood test immediately after the fight and random urine testing through the duration of the training camp should be more than enough for Team Mayweather especially since Pacquiao has never tested positive of any banned substance before. Thats more, much more than a 50-50 compromise - more like 80-20 compromise, MILD and fair request my as$ - in favor of Team Mayweather especially since drug tests, unlike purse splits, venue, glove sizes, ring size, penalties etc. are above and beyond the norm of what you would expect from a standard boxing negotiations. A 14 day cutoff period would be really pushing it. You know the saying, "offer them your hand, and they would ask for your arm next", well Team Mayweather is not content with the hand and arms, they even want Team Pacquiao's head and torso, and Team Pacquiao, by disagreeing on the 14 day cutoff period, is saying enough is enough with your whimsical and totally unnecessary requests.



And besides a 14 day blood test cutoff (or two weeks before fight night), which was offered by Team Mayweather to the press only AFTER the talks brokedown, is waaay to close and in fact coincide with a boxers's peak training period. Roach doesnt want Pacquiao mentally preoccupied with his fear with needles on or near this period especially since such blood tests are completely unnecessary. Mind games, baby.



Athletic superstitions are stupid but thats the way they are. The idea that Pac has some irrational superstition about drawing blood makes him weak sounds silly, but athletic superstitions often are.



http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=24328

. . . . As Kevin Costner’s immortal Crash Davis noted in the baseball classic Bull Durham, “If you believe you're playing well because you're getting laid, or because you're not getting laid, or because you wear women's underwear, THEN YOU ARE [playing well]!” Athletic mindsets are a tricky thing.



Hell, i've seen basketball jocks boast of wearing the same "lucky" boxers and socks for the duration of an entire tournament, physical hygiene be damned (they just flip it in every game). I've seen die-hard b-ball fans carry empty, smelly, germ infested, beer cans and plastic cups - drained empty on the first game of their team's winning streak, as lucky charms to keep their team's winning ways.



Anyway, like i said before, if Team Mayweather feels that the NSAC drug testing procedures are not effective enough or if Team Pacquiao feels that a painkiller like xylocaine should be banned in Nevada, like in many states in the US, they should take that up with the Nevada State Athletic Commission instead of wrangling about it in the negotiating table.



>>> ABOUT Teddy Atlas

I dont know what's Teddy Atlas' beef with Pac or more likely Bob Arum but this isn't the first time he is disrespectin' Pacquiao. Name your "reliable sources" regarding those emails, Teddy, so we could grill them.



http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Tyler082209.htm



He thinks Pac is only 3rd in the P4P list behind Floyd and Marquez and even that is an optical illusion. He act and speak like he is in GBP's pocket.



"David, probably Pacquiao even though I think there is a little bit of optical illusion there. I got to put a qualifier on it like buyer beware. Just remember that his last two fights that we are all going ga, ga over has probably projected him to the point that in people’s minds as pound for pound the top guy. Pacquiao is not the top guy. Those fights can be very, very, misleading and that’s what I mean by an optical illusion."



>>> ABOUT EPO's



Father of sports drug testing: Blood not needed to nail EPO cheats

http://www.examiner.com/x-5699-NY-Boxing-Examiner~y2009m12d30-UCLA-Doctor-Blood-tests-not-needed-to-catch-EPO-cheaters



>>> ABOUT HGH



http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2009-02-26-usada-hgh_N.htm

"There is a blood test for HGH that has been used at the last three Olympics, but it is expensive and no athletes have tested positive."



The same article outlines a new and more effective URINE test.



Team Mayweather's blood test requests ain't about preserving the integrity of the sport but rather serves as a harassment tool against Team Pacquiao. I dont for how long Golden Boy Promotions would ride along with Mayweather and co.. I mean sure, its fun to pain Arum (for outsmarting them on the value of Pacquiao) and Pacquiao (for destroying the drawing abilities of their cash cows, Oscar and R.Hatton) but the Mayweathers, Ellerbe and Heymon's antics are beginning to do more harm than good.



I certainly blame Mayweather's camp for the current animosity and uncooperativeness between Top Rank and GBP, which would lead to less interesting boxing matches for us fans to watch.



Maybe its time for GBP to say enough is enough to Mayweather and co.



>>> ABOUT Vic Conte

In this article: http://www.doghouseboxing.com/DHB/Kim122509.htm

Vic Conte, BALCO guy, offered his unsolicited opinion on the Pac-Mayweather fight (and his opinion on doping procedures in general) to PUBLICIZE his services as an anti-doping consultant.



According to Conte, the current boxing tests and the Mayweather and GBP preferred USADA tests are both WEAK.



So if Mayweather or GBP gives any weight on Conte's opinion, their insistence on USADA (blood) testing for the Pac fight would be stupid.



Hell, Conte's beef WAS NOT because of the 14/24 day cutoff period for random blood testing stipulated on the Pac vs Mayweather fight but because the USADA testing is in his own words:

". . . . because you're allowed two missed tests and they can't come back the next day because you have to be allowed a hearing to provide your reasonable explanation or the 'exceptional circumstance' as they call it. So they'll just come back the next day and of course none of this is transparent. It's like being up to hit in baseball where you get two strikes and then you smack it out of the park and hit a home run."



Maybe Team Mayweather with the help of Mr. Conte should first advocate that USADA clean up its act before applying its anti-doping procedures as an alternative to the NSAC.



>>> BONUS

http://www.boxingtalk.com/pag/article.php?aid=19112



THE BALL IS IN FLOYD'S COURT

By Al Bernstein



Best part:

When he decided to move up in weight, Freddie Roach rightly recognized that if Pacquiao fought the way he had in the lower weights, somebody bigger would probably knock him out. So, at age 29, with the help of Roach, Pacquiao did what few boxers do at any age---he reinvented himself. He became the very defiunitio0n of a boxer-puncher. The Pacquiao that fought David Diaz, Oscar DeLaHoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto at weights from 135 to 147 used hand and foot speed, an infinitely better right hand, and better defense to go along with power. Anybody who professes to know boxing should have been able to see that.



No performance enhancing drugs can change your technique. Even though he stopped all of those opponents fighting at weights higher than he had previously fought at—it was not power that made the difference. The difference was speed, ring generalship, combination punching and a vastly improved defense.


This content was originally posted on Y! Answers, a Q&A website that shut down in 2021.
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