Why do people still think a boxer can beat a MMA fighter?

Question

I thought the first UFC proved they can't, but apparently some people still dont know. The numbers game doesnt favor a boxer against a kickbower or MMA fighter. By numbers game, I mean that the boxer isnt able to do as many things as the kickboxer or mma fighter. A boxer could actually be more skilled in terms of athletic ability, than the kickboxer or mma fighter. But, the mma fighter has more weapons to deploy against the boxer, who will probably only be able to defend the hands. This leaves a number of weapons unchecked, like kicks, takedowns, knees, and elbows. The number of offensive techniques that the mma fighter can throw would overwhelm the boxer. Here is a link that shows what happens when a world class boxer steps into the kickboxing ring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2umHEeXkwE

Answer 1

this is dumb!!!! i enjoy boxing and i dont care a mma fighter can beat a boxer.

Answer 2

A good MMA fighter will beat an average boxer in MMA fighting. A champion caliber boxer, however, will most likely whoop an MMA fighter. Consider that you have a fighter who is used to only being able to use his hands to win and replacing his 10 ounce gloves with 4 ouncers. While the MMA fighter will have the advantage on the ground, the initial punching barage will most likely be intolerable to the head-open fighting style common in UFC. I'll take Klitschko over Liddel for $50.

Answer 3

Amazing. The guy supplied a video of Vince Phillips, who was a CHAMPION BOXER, getting destroyed in K-1, yet there are still people saying a boxer would win with boxing alone. One guy even said boxing is the best for all around body hardening. LOL. Are you serious? I guess nobody told Vince Phillips that, because his legs got kicked into submission. Look people, watch some K-1. You'll see that in a kickboxing match, someone who can only box will get beaten every time. IF YOU CAN'T PLANT YOUR FEET, THEN YOU CANT PUNCH. ALL A KICK-BOXER HAS TO DO TO BEAT A BOXER IS BLOCK HIS PUNCHES AND KICK HIS LEGS. AFTER 3 OR 4 GOOD LEG KICKS, THE BOXER IS DONE. NO MORE POWER IN HIS PUNCHES AND NO MORE MOVEMENT. Ray Mercer, another CHAMPION boxer, fought in K-1 and I think his fight lasted 9 seconds. He got kicked in the head and was out. I would take Chuck Liddell in a MMA fight against any heavyweight boxer, and he wouldn't have to take them down to win. He could easily win with leg kicks. You guys should seriously go check out some K-1 fights on youtube.

Answer 4

I'll keep it simple. If a MMA fighter was to fight a boxer in a MMA fight he would win, if a MMA fighter was to fight a boxer in a boxing bout then the boxer would win. They will win at what they are best at, its that simple. Both forms of fighting are great.

Answer 5

i enjoy both styles of fighting and its true what you say about the kickboxer or MMA fighter being able to use more weapons. However isn't it true also that when you learn to box, your training is such that you learn to defend and counter anything thrown at you by your opponent?

I train in boxing because i believe it is the best body-hardening type of fighting. I learn from my cousin who was a bronze-medallist in the South Pacific and represented our country. Now, what he taught me about boxing i have been able to use against others who had more of an "ADVANTAGE" such as a kickboxer, or a jiujitsu fighter.

This is what he taught me:

1. When someone comes in for a tackle or "shoots in", you simply throw a quick uppercut as they shoot in followed by a snapping hook to the jaw. Their weight will end the fight for you.

I have done this and it works. (Yes against a practicing MMA fighter).



2. When a kickboxer kicks you, what's the difference? People seem to think that a kick is more crippling than a punch. Right....when a kickboxer throws a huge spinning side/back kick what makes it so different from a hook in boxing? You simply duck and weave as your opponent lashes one out. Then you have the choice of either smashing his open body OR delivering a hard 1, 2 to his thigh and corking his leg. Once that's done he wont be kicking or doing anything else for much longer. Kicks are much easier to read that punches.

I have done this and it works.



If a kickboxer or taekwondo fighter tries to kick with a straight kick to your diaphragm in order to wind you? How is that different from a straight jab. You simply adjust by slipping the kick and proceeding with the abovementioned example!

They won't be throwing in knees after that either.



Elbows? Please. One idiot tried that and all i had to do was slip his jab and deliver a corking short uppercut to his outstretched arm right on the tricep. He dropped his arm and then I fully deadened it by throwing a left cross to his arm again. No more elbows! He didn't last long after that!



You mentioned that boxers could be more athletic, yes but also boxers are more in tune with how the body works, what hurts, what kills and what cripples. A boxer can fight in close quarters and vice versa. Also you use alot of words like "probably" could actually be". Have you actually been in a fight? You can't say that one style will beat another. It is up to the individual, the practitioner of that respective style who decides how things play out.

Little tricks like the ones i mentioned, (which are extremely basic), are not easy to pull off depending on the skill level of a boxer but done right can knock ANYONE out MMA fighter or not.

Hullo, you think that boxers can only fight boxers?? What would be the point of learning boxing then? How inconvenient would that be to ask someone: "Are you a boxer? Coz if you're not i can't fight you, my style only works on other boxers..."

Come on, as a fighter you adapt to different forms of fighting to suit you, genius.

Answer 6

Negotiate. First round is boxing style. Second round MMA style, so forth. In the first round, make him dizzy. In the second round, dance like Ali did against Liston. If you get caught in wrasslin, fight for a draw. Also, wear a chastity belt, I don't trust those full-mounting MMA types. What's messed up about MMA rules is that you can't rabbit punch but you can choke. I'd just clock my opponent in the back of the head if they went for my legs. Something that's easy to learn is the roundhouse kick to the shin or thigh. Real simple and easy to land and puts a nice charley horse in the leg muscles.

Answer 7

I will qualify my answer before I do answer.

1. I lived in a bad environment that required me to fight constantly.

2. Boxed from age four to age twenty

3. Took Bondo (Burmese kickboxing) for three years.

4. Took American Kenpo for six.



So that qualified...Ill give my humble opinion on the subject.



American Kenpo taught that most fights come down to rhythm, angles, opportunites and the ability to keep a move constant. If you can fire off five shots in a row..then your opponent who is firing off one and resizing himself will take more damage...causing his attacks to weaken.



If you do watch MMA, most of the mixed martial artists are have not mastered any single art. They know quite abit about alot of them, but not the things they need to know. How to close the distance...how to engage without being hit. In MMA its quite common for the two fighters to hit each other simultaneously.



Another problem MMA fighters have is angles. MMA fighters can only fight going straight at each other. Kicks...dives...punches are straight...even the hooks have to be walking forward. There is little...if any lateral movement at all. MMA fighters move sideways...stop..then start to attack forward..they cant do both simultaneously.



The final issue is "taking it to the ground"...the gentleman ahead of me mentioned Lidell fighting Klitchko and Lidell killing him. Let me say this in all fairness...not likely to happen. Another hampering MMA fighters have is being flatfooted...they dont really travel well. Its something that is lost in their training. Chuck Lidell would have to get within shooting RANGE of Klitchko...and Klitchko being the larger man...would just continually circle...step back...and tag him as he attempted. Remember, this is a 250 man tagging you...how many times do you really expect him to keep trying?



In any martial art of any kind...boxing..JKD...there is a level of perfection that you have to have in all that you do. Boxers arent better fighters...they have completely mastered what they do (the elite ones anyway).



I would highly suggest training...and not listening to the commentors about "how great their athletes are"....before coming to your conclusions. Keep in mind...the commentors havent trained in these arts either.

Answer 8

To the guy above me, you're a fool and you obviously didn't comprehend anything. Chuck would take Klitschko right down, how would Klitschko defend the takedown? He could outbox Chuck obviously, but when Chuck shoots for a takedown Klitschko wouldn't have any ability to defend it, and when the fight hits the ground, it is pretty much over. Chuck would ground n pound a TKO or submit him. Boxers can't seem to deal with kickboxers, much less MMA fighters.

Answer 9

whats funny about this whole who will beat who argument,is that most people who argue it never trained in any figting style whatsoever but yet have the balls to say who will beat who. so....how bout that elena reid?